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Major thanks to Lucy for rec Still Wakes the Deep a few episodes back. This game is freaking awesome. It's like The Thing on an oil rig. Also switched to UK English if you play

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Big fans of all three of you. I'm compelled to push back on one thing you all seemed in agreement on however: if a game takes 10 hours to get good, even if that's typical for the genre, or fans are used to it, that is still a flaw of the game, not of the people who aren't willing to push past it. The people who make those games should learn how to make the first 10 hours as good as the rest of it, and fans should keep complaining until they do.

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Wonderful listen as always. Love the discussion.

I've sunk 30hrs into Metaphor so far and it's easily GOTY for me (it'd have to do something seriously wrong in the remaining however many hours for me for it to change that), most likely it'll end up being one of my favourite games of all time.

I'd add Animal Well to my list of other GOTY contenders, but metaphor easily eclipses that now.

Curious to know how Dragon Age will fare, but that'll have to wait a few months for me.

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